Allison Fisher - Part 5 (Legacy, Balance and the Final Frame)

So you had the benefit, not that we're gonna fast forward now to the day, but you've had the benefit of hindsight here in looking back over a long and successful career. And this is true of any sport, I suppose.
I know golfers in particular, they go through this peak of performance, right?
Where everything just comes together, and it's a certain age and fitness and how your head is mentally, because there's a lot of aspects of the mental game on golf that's talked about all the time, maybe not as much in pool, but it certainly applies.
So you got all that coming together for a peak period of performance. For a golfer, it may not be more than a couple of years. Sometimes it's 12 months where it's just, they're in that zone, right?
So I'm sure pool players the same way. As players come out of that zone, what's going on? Are they not putting in the work?
Is it the body's changing? Is it mental acuity and sharpness? What's going on that gets people out of their peak performance?
I think all sorts of things.
It could be anything. It depends. You have peaks and troughs.
It's like if I watch the men or some of the women, they have a great year and then the next year it's not happening. That can be focus because the other thing is, when you manage yourself, there's a lot of other distractions.
For example, when you win, win, win, win, win, now you're maybe the expectation, you've got more things to fulfill if you're managing yourself.
You've got maybe exhibitions you've got to do, you've got appearances you need to do, you're being pulled in different directions. The more successful you are, the more things go on usually. That's one thing.
I think desire is a massive thing. If you don't have a desire and the will to do something, you're not going to be as good. Maybe goal setting.
Desire, goal setting, complacency, different directions. Yeah, it's a lot of things. Your body changing, maybe your workout.
You're not doing as much as you should be doing. There's lots of different things. And at different times in your career, but you also have to have a balance of life.
Yeah, and that's come up a lot as we talk about the golfers and particularly true of you guys as well.
What the fan doesn't see when there are ebbs in performance is there's stuff going on outside the ropes, as we say in golf, or outside the pool hall. You've got a personal life and things are happening. And we don't see that.
No, don't see.
As you get older also, when you're young, you're fearless, you've got everything to gain, your desire, your outlook on life is different.
And as you get older, you're going to experience relationship breakups, you're going to experience deaths, you're going to lose people that are in your life, your friendships, you might lose friendships, you might lose relationships.
There's just ups and downs that you have to deal with that people have no idea that are going on.
I would like to add one thing too, that Allison held the peak, her prime, longer than anyone that has ever been in my lifetime or perhaps before. And I was affiliated with the women's tour for eight years.
So I got to see it firsthand and it came to ESPN finals every time, it's her and Karen every single time.
And so there was rumors that ESPN was trying to shape it differently so that it wouldn't just be Allison and Karen, because people couldn't tell, is this the most recent final? Is this years ago? It's just Allison and Karen.
No, really. And they would change like the carpet color, or they would change the format to single elimination in the finals, or just all kinds of little oddities, just because she is so dominant at that point.
That's true, they did change the formats a few times.
Trying to throw you off a little bit.
It didn't help. I mean, it didn't work. It was amazing.
Well, you just kept winning, 99 bunch of wins, 2000 bunch of wins.
You win another world championship in Japan in 2001. And by the way, we're runner up three different times.
So just kind of bridge the gap between the third championship, 98, and the fourth championship in 2001, where you're still playing as well as you always had, I mean, certainly your record reflects that.
And did you have some close calls in the world championships in the intervening years?
I don't remember that, but I do remember I lost my dad. So my dad died in the beginning of 2001 in February. And I think I struggled that whole year.
It was ironic that year because I'd lost him and he was really the one that I listened to with everything. And I played terrible and I think that was the year Karen won everything. I couldn't get there.
I just couldn't get over the winning line. But ironically, I won two or three major events. Like I think I won maybe the champion of champions and I think I won the world.
Maybe I did win the world, I think. Was that 2001?
You did.
Yeah, so I don't know what happened. Something kicked in that I ended up winning it and I was like, I was shocked myself and maybe those events were towards the end of the year.
I think they were.
They were. So my dad died early in the year and I just struggled very, very hard with getting over the winning line. Everything was a struggle.
So that was a big thing for me, a big trauma, I think.
Well, as you said, that year went Karen Cor, Karen Cor, Jeanette Lee, Karen Cor, Karen Cor, Karen Cor and then all of a sudden, boom, Tournament of Champions and WPA World Championship, Allison Fisher, you're kind of back.
Yeah. I don't know how, but I did and got back on track. You know, when my dad was dying, I said to him, oh, well, we've had a good run, haven't we?
And he said, yeah, but you've got a lot more to do. I was thinking, oh, I can relax now.
Yeah. Yeah.
But he was like, yeah, but you've got a lot more to do, a lot more to win. So, you know, he kind of left me with that.
Well, and you did because I've still got another page and a half of wins here that you've got to get through.
It was getting harder though, I can tell you that.
In what way?
Well, the fact that I didn't have him there, I think, I didn't have an, I never had a coach in pool or anyone to bounce off. I mean, Mark, you've helped me out a lot, but I didn't have that person, I didn't sort of call upon anyone.
I never had the person to, that I've got real close to that I would just bounce off of like a lot of these, like Jasmine, Kelly, they've had coaches since they were kids that have grown up with them.
And even to this day, Kelly calls her coach every day, I think, wherever she is in the world.
And Jasmine, the same, or she had a coach called Michael, and not so much now, but they've grown up with these people, have known them implicitly, and that makes a big difference, even for a chat, even if it's not about the game, or if it is about
the game, just brings you back into focus. So I think when I lost my dad, I lost a lot of that. You don't realize how important somebody is until you lose them either.
Yeah, you're always trying to impress your parents, aren't you?
Yes, you are. I don't know if my son tries to impress me or not. But I think you always, yeah, I mean, my dad, it wasn't like he coached me or anything, but he just knew what to say.
It wasn't, it's just he was my dad.
Well, you keep winning. 2002, there must be six or seven wins here. 2003, a bunch more, 2004, and so on.
I mean, just, as we said, that stretch up to, I think, 2007, where you were the number one player in the world. At any time, did your desire to put in the work and your motivation ebb at all?
I'm sure it did. What happened to me throughout my career, and it doesn't matter what age I was at, I would always have times of thinking, oh, I'm missing out or, you know, I'm losing motivation.
And whenever I felt like that or thought that, something good would happen. I'd knock in a century break at Snook and I think, oh, you know, that's great.
You know, I'd get going again, or I'd win a tournament and it would just get me all back into it.
So I think I've always had those sorts of situations where I'm like maybe losing a bit of interest or lack of motivation and then just something good happens and then it sort of would get me, pull me back into it.
And also I've always felt like I've been given a very big gift. So I've always tried to respect that as well. So I'm definitely, I've been lucky over the years.
I've been given a gift and you don't want to throw it away. And I've definitely had times where I've not put in the work for sure. There's no doubt about that.
But I also think on the opposite side of that is that I wouldn't be sitting here over so many years if I didn't have the balance of life.
You know, some people come in and do it strongly for a few years and then disappear, whereas I've been in doing this for 40 years competing. So to be doing it that long and still be competitive is amazing.
And I think it's just purely because I've had balance in my life.
Yeah. So how hard was it to accept that moving from 2007 to 2008, Allison Fisher is no longer number one in the world?
Well, it gives you something to aspire to, doesn't it? Something to try and get back, I think.
Well, it can have that effect. I assume with somebody like you, it probably did.
Well, I think like we've talked about, things are going on in your life too. And at that point, I think everything was pretty good. So I know everything was pretty good.
I just don't know. I think maybe the balance of life maybe was a little different. Relationships, things like that.
But I think that's inevitable, isn't it, in any sport? You're going to not be there. I always knew that, to not squander your winnings and things like that.
I always knew that because I thought you're never going to be number one forever. So I was very smart in that sense. I never took it for granted.
And I think it's inevitable in any sport.
Yeah, of course, your mom went through some serious surgery back in 2009, didn't she?
She did. It was a weird situation for me that particular time because we were pregnant with Pearson. My mom was about to have a quadruple bypass.
That came out of the blue. And Mike Pinozzo was calling me while I was in the Philippines saying, you've been inducted into the Hall of Fame.
The trifecta.
I had a trifecta of weirdness going on. I didn't know how to feel. It was strange.
Yeah, just a mix of emotions.
It was very much a mix of emotions actually.
Because when I say we were pregnant with Pearson, my partner at the time, we actually nearly lost him while we were in the Philippines in China. So yeah, a lot of things were going through my mind.
Yeah. I mean, how do you perform at your peak?
I wasn't. I went to and out in that tournament in China because we ended up in the hospital and yeah, it was very messy and then my mom, I came home and surprised her. I had planes, trains and automobiles to get to England to see her.
She'd come through a major surgery. So it was just, yeah, it was a very roller coaster of emotions very much.
Yeah. So let's talk about that 11-year period or so when you were number one in the world. At any one point, who would you point to as the second best player in the world?
It varied at different times.
There was Guy Un Kim who I mentioned. Karen Cor came over at some point. So those two were my top two at that point.
Jeanette was in two, when I first came over in 94 was number one in the world. And then Vivian at some point before that. But I would say that Guy Young and Karen were my nemeses, if you like, as far as my top competitors, I think.
Yeah.
So you come out of this peak performance era, you continue to win, maybe not the rate you were winning, but you're still a top player winning three or four events a year, it seems like.
And so you go from 2009 up through the period of COVID with several wins. Were you competing as much during that time in your career as you were when you were in your prime?
I probably put my Cue down actually through COVID. I was spending more quality time with the family, to be honest. I was doing different things at home.
I think everyone was, and I didn't really pick up my Cue and I didn't miss it either.
There probably weren't that many events that they contested, were there?
Well, there weren't any events going on through COVID. There was some online, but I wasn't interested in that. Playing the ghost wasn't really my thing.
When did they pick it back up then?
Was it 22, 23?
I think so, yeah, around that time. And again, it wasn't a fast pace back for me because the WPBA didn't have it. It got a tour going, but it didn't start off with...
And then Predator came in and started putting on these 10 ball events, like 20,000 to the winner. And I was like... I started to pick up my Cue and I thought, well...
Because I didn't know if I was retired or not. I felt retired. Then I thought, well, I'll give it a go and see if I...
And then I practiced a bit and I thought, well, I've still got it. So I entered at my first Predator event in Canada and I came second. And that was with those short races and shootouts, which I hated.
But anyway, so still there and I sort of got back into it, I think. All new people, a lot of new people, a lot of the older people stopped playing and then, and then a new contingent was coming through.
So, Allison, I'm not going to say it was your final victory. I like to refer to it as your most recent win. I was privileged enough to sit with your mom and see you playing in the Palmetto Billiards Invitational in 2024.
I think I saw the Saturday play. I, to be honest, I didn't see the Sunday play. I watched it streaming.
Oh, yeah, that was a really great result.
I felt great in that tournament. I felt mentally ready. My game was up to par.
And I remember winning that Hill Hill, actually. I played Cristina Zlateva in the final. And I beat Cristina Tkach Hill Hill as well.
I think in the semis, I broke and ran the last rack.
But it was a big deal getting over the winning line again, because as much as I've won in my career, when you've had a lull, quite a long break and not played, and then I was coming back, I've gone full circle, where I was coming back to see if I
could win again, basically. And the confidence level wasn't like when I first came over and coming from a 12-foot table to a 9-foot. For some reason, I wasn't as confident.
But I put in a bit of work and worked with my friend Jim at the time, and I was practicing again and putting the work in, so my confidence level was back. And then mentally, I was totally there in that event. I actually thought I was going to win it.
It's just doing everything right, just making sure I was following all my steps. And I got the victory.
Yeah. Yeah. So bring us up to today then, in terms of, are you competing?
Are you healthy? Are you putting in the work? Is there a lot of stuff gobbling up your time right now other than this podcast?
Well, again, the balance of life, isn't it?
I'm putting my family time as very much the quality time. These days, my kids are teenagers of 15 and 14. So it's very important for me to spend time with them.
I have sponsors on tour that I represent, so I'm picking and choosing what I'm playing. I'm not doing so much of the international events because I don't really need to.
My partner said to me, she said, well, is it going to change your life if you miss this event? Because sometimes I've questioned whether to go in certain events. I thought it's not going to change my life.
I've been playing for 40 odd years in events. Missing an event here and there is not going to change my life. I miss the camaraderie of the friendships of the people.
That's something that's changed over the years. I was very much single-minded. But when you grow up with people on a tour over decades and you'll go through different things together, you get to know each other as friends.
So as much as your enemy is on the table, you want to beat each other, you do create friendships along the way. So they're important. But honestly, in my heart, if I didn't play another event, I don't think I would be upset with myself.
But I will play and I will play events still, but it's just I'm probably a bit more choosy these days than in the past. I can't be a full time.
I can't be like some of the players on the road because there are events all over the world and you could be playing all the time if you wanted. But to me, you can't have a relationship like that. You can't have quality family time.
And I'm not a spring chicken anymore, so every moment I have is very valuable to me now.
Yeah. And I think I probably told you this before. If you won two or three more events, would that really change your pool playing legacy?
No.
I've done everything I really want to do. I absolutely have. I can say that with my hand on my heart.
I've done everything I want to do. So if it didn't happen for me again, it wouldn't be a bad thing. And I've just got to make the most out of life now.
Yeah.
Well, Mark, as you look at Allison's record and look at the accolades and the honors that have been bestowed upon her, not just her MBE title, which by the way, we're going to get upgraded.
That's my mission in life is I'm going to get her title upgraded. So I've got to get wired into the king somehow.
That's funny.
And on New Year's Day honors, we're going to get her stepped up a notch. I'd like to be calling her Dame one time.
That would be nice.
That would be awesome. Yeah. I was so proud of her when she was awarded the MBE, because I knew the Beatles had gotten one and member of the British Empire for anyone that would know.
But to make an impact in our sport like that, where your country would recognize you, it was just like, I was happy about it. I've been happier. I don't know.
I was telling her, now, anytime you sign your autograph, Allison, you got to put MBE and the year behind it. She goes, oh, do we? Of course you do.
Oh yeah. But it really goes back to this as mental toughness. When you look at what she's endured to stay at the top, and it's not just the travel conflicts and the hardships.
And then when you travel, everybody wants a little piece of you. Hey, Ali, would you look at this? Shoot me one game, sign my case.
Could I take a picture with you? And it's all that conflict. It takes away, static in your concentration.
Then you're at the final match, and now the TV lights are out, and there's some kind of a hectic thing.
Then you go back to the green room, and you wait, and then you don't know when, and now we're ready to go, and now go perform, and it's not an easy thing. And it really, and then she handled it all with such grace.
Like she would never say these things, even though she knows these things. But I'll say it because I saw it, and couldn't be more impressed overall. So, you know, I'm smitten with her, in case you didn't know.
Oh, thank you, Mark.
It's been a pleasure actually teaching with Mark. As I said yesterday, it's like, I've been very lucky with the people that I've crossed paths with on the journey.
And he's definitely one of them up there in my books, you know, as a friend and a player, and somebody I respect very much in the sport.
I'll tell you another thing, and this is a side. She is an all-star. If you've ever traveled anywhere in the world with her, she knows the ins and outs of travel, getting around, how you do things, and I'm bewildered wherever we go.
She's got it down. Now, this is how you do it here. That's pretty cool, too.
Funny.
Well, you look back through all these accolades, and Player of the Year, all the different Billiard magazines, they were Player of the Year, seems like every year.
Billiards Digest, ninth greatest living player of the 20th century, served her organization as president in 2000. She's got Walk of Fame. She's got most favorite, fan favorite in Billiard type magazines.
Hall of Fame, we talked about one of the big ones, which was the 2009 BCA Hall of Fame. That induction was in Virginia. I think Barry Stern might have recorded a video for you that evening, didn't he?
Yeah, I've got a video of Mike Pinozzo, I think did it.
And yeah, definitely one of the highlights of my career. When you go in the Hall of Fame and just the people in the room, it's wonderful, your peers and people who have watched you over the years.
And it's quite a night because you get to thank everyone and mention everyone who's been a part of that journey. And it's really wonderful to be recognized for what you've done in the sport.
Of course, you were inducted into your own professional organization Hall of Fame, the WPBA Hall of Fame in 2016. We talked about your MBE in 2022, inducted into the World Snooker Hall of Fame in 2022.
And then in 2024, inducted into the inaugural class of the WPA Hall of Fame. That was pretty cool.
Yeah, it's the World Billiard Hall of Fame. So I was one of the first people in that. And I sat next to Ronnie O'Sullivan and actually was sitting in China.
I went to China for the day. This is what happened. I had a tournament to come back to in Iowa.
So I was in China. I flew there. It was planes, trains and automobiles.
Got to China on this long trip, then to Shanghai, then to crossed in a taxi an hour and a half to a train station.
Got a two hour ride to a train station, got to the train station, was in the car another hour and a half, got to China hotel, lost my voice for the induction so I couldn't speak. I have no idea what happened.
I woke up with no voice the next day, got inducted into that Hall of Fame in China. I had the dinner that night. Next morning, I was back to the US.
Holy smokes.
Crazy.
Yeah, not the way to do that.
No, not really.
But again, that was an amazing time in China because all the snooker players were there, Mark. They had a snooker tournament starting the day after that Hall of Fame thing.
So all the people that I hadn't seen in years and then all the dignitaries in the pool and billiard world. In China, they do everything way overboard in a good way. But they've created this museum.
They've built a museum for billiards. It has all the old pool tables or everything to do with Cue Sports and recognitions of all these players along the walls. It's an amazing place.
And we were awarded a trophy and a pure gold medal. And yeah, it was incredible. So, Four Hall of Fames.
Pretty cool.
But you know, with all that, with everything I read, Mark, and of course, I only read about a quarter of the list, right? There's one that kind of struck me. And I may be stepping right into it.
I'm not sure what I'm getting into here, but it just seemed very impressive. I have twice named the UK Thai woman of the year.
Well, okay.
Yeah, that's an odd one, isn't it? I had no idea that there was a Thai woman of the year, but obviously I used to use bow tires when I played snooker and there were probably women in other sports that had tires on of some sort.
So I've got no idea about that award, but I didn't make that one up. That was an award, and I'll take it.
Yeah, exactly. I just didn't know what I was getting into, because I had no idea. You can kind of assume what it might be, but having not heard about anything like that, I wasn't quite sure.
I got a little gold pin of a tie as an award.
That funny. Anyway, yeah, I don't know about that.
Yeah, so as they said in a famous movie, we all know about, well, you got that going for you, which is nice.
Yeah, I say the pool thing doesn't work out for us. You can do that.
Yeah, exactly right. Okay, we talked about some of your TV appearances. Of course, you've been a commentator and sports commentator and have commentated pool in the studio, in your home and so forth.
Lots of other things. One thing going on right now, which I've seen a lot on Facebook lately, you can tell us more about, and that's this Cue Queens project.
Yes, a friend of mine, Kim Shaw, she used to play on tour and used to be a snooker player. She's been a writer and doing a day job as well, and she's created different things.
Anyway, we got talking and then my friend Julie is a director in England of soap operas in England, a very well-known director, and she came over to do a documentary on me. Anyway, she did a lot of work.
We did a lot of TV stuff, and then it didn't work out, it got put on the back burner. Then she bumped into somebody years later in LA, called Ashley Tindall, who's a director and producer over here, who does docu-series and started talking about it.
Anyway, that's what happened. They got talking about possibly doing a docu-series for somebody like Netflix. And that's what we've been doing is filming myself at home and other players at tournaments and doing lots of interviews.
They've got a lot in the can, Ava, myself, Gerda and past and present players and trying to docu-series Women's Pool because it's very international now.
We've got a lot of international players, Russian, Belarus, all over Europe, all over America, all over South America. There's players from all over the world playing China, Japan.
And anyway, we're trying to do a thing on Women's Pool and it's reached its target of, it did a crowdfunding type fundraising campaign and it's going to go to the next level now. They've created some great trailers.
And so that's really what it's about, Women's Pool and behind the scenes. It's not just, you see, like we've been talking about today, you don't know what's going on in somebody's life. Well, here's your chance to see it.
What's going on behind the scenes?
Well, we look forward to seeing that.
Yeah, I think it's going to be great.
I hope Netflix does pick it up. But it just seems like a pretty cool, pretty cool project you're involved in. We ought to mention your sponsors, and I'll prompt you for those.
We got Brunswick Billiards, Kamui, Jam Up Apparel, Mez Cues, Fort Worth Billiards, Break Time Billiards. They've been with you for a while?
Yes, I've been, you know, last couple of years, I like to be with people for a period of time. I don't like them sort of one-year deals. So they've been really good.
It's been nice to be with Brunswick, obviously one of the top table companies in the world. And the other companies, Mez is a cue that I'm using. They're from Japan, as is Kamui Tips and Chalk.
They've been wonderful. Jam up the apparel that I wear. They've done Allison Fisher Line.
Great Time Billiards is one of my local forums here in Clemens, North Carolina. And Mark and I actually have done some of our teachings out of there, our pool scores.
So yeah, I've got some really Fort Worth Billiards, a billiards supply company in Dallas. Really nice people in the industry. And I've been fortunate over the years.
I have been with good companies and, um, you know, proud to represent them.
Well, I'll tell you a short story about Fort Worth Billiards. I get a call yesterday afternoon and it's a young lady in customer service at Fort Worth Billiards. I had been looking for six months ago, a set of eight ball pool balls, right?
The red and the yellow. And I couldn't find them and finally talked to them. I ordered it online.
Yeah.
It comes to find out they weren't in stock, even though their website said they were in stock, they're on back order.
They'll let me know, blah, blah, blah. So I went ahead and I did find that set of balls somewhere else.
So probably six months later, yesterday, I get a call from Fort Worth Billiards says, Mike, just, I know you were looking for this particular product. We just got some in if you're still on the look. And I was very impressed with that follow up.
That is impressive.
That's terrific.
That just doesn't happen these days.
No, that's really good. And by the way, what were you, so that's the English pool balls, right?
Actually, they do make a two and a quarter inch version of the yellow and red balls.
I didn't know that.
So that's what I use for eight ball with my friends. We just, you can visualize it better.
Well, I have no idea why they don't do that and take the solids and stripes out and just do that, two colors and the black.
There was a period of time they were called Casino eight ball sets and we used to use them once in a while when we'd have an eight ball turn rep. But truly, I don't know what happened. We don't play eight ball much, I guess is really what happened.
But Mark, were they the inch and seven eighth balls or were they the American size balls?
Yeah, they're two and a quarter.
I think I want to get a set of those.
Well, I know who to call now.
Exactly. Call your sponsor. They just got them in.
Excellent.
Let me ask one more question.
What level of natural ability do you think you possess versus work ethic?
I don't know percentage wise, but I definitely had a lot of natural ability.
But I think the work, I've always found in life, if I pick some snooker players like Jimmy White, versus Stephen Hendry, Jimmy had all the talent in the world, but never really won majors or never won a world championships.
And he's because he was so erratic, he would be nine nil up in one session, nine to nine in the next session, you know. Whereas if you take somebody like Hendry and Davis, they had the talent, but they work really hard at it.
So for me, I think the work and the talent, I worked hard, but I had the natural talent as well. But percentage wise, I don't want to know what that was.
I was, I had a careers educator, sorry, a PE teacher at school once said to me, because I had a conflict of a snooker tournament and a hockey match.
And anyway, after I picked the snooker or whatever, but she said to me, you need to pick what you want to do, you know, and do it all in. So that was, so I, so I was good at sport.
I was good at different sports to almost county levels, but snooker was the one that grabbed me. And obviously I, you know, had some talent for it, but I worked really hard at it too.
But percentage wise, I don't know what that would have been, but fair enough.
Yeah. Okay, so it's, it's been a delight, first of all, to with Mark help recount your story for our listeners.
And I'm sure that we're going to have little kids 50, a hundred years from now, as we get this content archive, listening to the Allison Fisher story, because people are going to say, wait a minute, she was the greatest woman player that ever played.
We got to hear more about her. So I'm so glad we had a chance to do this.
Me too.
Of course, you have the benefit of knowing now that we have three final questions. And unlike the 107 guests we had on our golf podcast, and unlike Mark, who was the first one in the ring for our pool podcast, we do have three questions.
And I'm going to let Mark start by asking the first question.
Okay, Ally, if you came to America and then at age 20, knew what you know now, what would you do differently today?
That is a tricky one because, I mean, obviously we get wiser as we get older. I think to be very present and enjoy the ride, because it's been a real good one. It's been a roller coaster.
To use your time wisely, I think. Because I think you always think you could do a bit more than you did. So use time wisely.
Don't take anything too personally, because I think when we're younger, we tend to do that a little bit too much. Don't put things off and always be adventurous.
They're good. Mark, do you think she prepared an answer for us today?
That was good.
I think she did.
That was good.
Did she cheat?
Somewhat.
That's all right. It was still a lot of targets there.
That was very good. All right. Question number two, which you've probably thought about, we're giving you one career mulligan, one shot to do over that would have made a difference.
Where would you take it?
I would take it back to the ESPN Ultimate Challenge playing Vivian for that chance to play CJ Wiley.
There were two shots in there that I would do differently, but the specific shot was a three railer instead of a two railer, which I did and hooked myself. So, that would be my mulligan.
And that would have gotten you in the finals. More money or just more prestige, more TV time?
Well, a bit of everything really. I just wanted to see if I could beat CJ. You know, that was a real hurtful one to me, that I would have a do over.
That's the one that always stuck with me.
All right, Mark, we go to you for the final question.
Allie, how would you like to be remembered in our sport?
I think to be, I've been a great representative and ambassador of the sport, I think.
Well, mission accomplished then. I would have to agree, you fulfilled that.
Thank you.
Well, it's been great having you on, and I think we've all learned a lot. So on behalf of Legends of the Cue, we're going to wrap it up.
Well, thank you very much for having me. I've had a ball with you two.
Well, thank you, Allie. And I'll tell you, I can't tell you both how happy I am to have both of you guys come into my life and take on this project with me. I think it's going to be a wonderful journey.
I'm glad to have both of your life stories in the can and looking forward to launching our podcast for the enjoyment of all our listeners, hopefully sometime in August. So thanks again for joining us in telling your life story on Legends of the Cue.
Thank you very much.
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