March 30, 2026
Mary Kenniston - Part 7 (Survivor, Storyteller, and Keeper of Pool’s Memory)
In the final chapter of our seven-part conversation with WPBA Hall of Famer Mary Kenniston, the story comes full circle. Mary reflects on the closing years of her competitive career, the health battle that changed everything, and the determination that carried her back to the table playing better, in some ways, than ever before.
With candor, wit, and hard-earned perspective, Mary shares how she rebuilt her game after serious illness, teaching herself how to swing her arm again, refining her fundamentals, and discovering new ways to aim that she wishes she’d known from the beginning. She looks back on the stamina demands of tournament pool, the painful decision to retire, and the one shot from the 1989 U.S. Open she would take back if given a single career mulligan.
But this episode is about more than competition. It’s about legacy.
Mary tells the remarkable story of how a few forgotten boxes of photographs became an extraordinary accidental archive of pool history. What began as a personal trip down memory lane turned into a passion project that has preserved thousands upon thousands of images of players, tournaments, and moments that might otherwise have been lost. In doing so, Mary has become the game’s unofficial historian, reconnecting generations of fans and players with the sport’s rich past.
She also opens up about life after touring professionally, from dealing poker and caring for family to writing, commentary, and chronicling the people and personalities who built the game she loves.
Asked how she hopes to be remembered, Mary’s answer says it all: as both a survivor and a steward of pool’s history.
This moving and memorable finale is a fitting close to the life story of a woman whose impact on the game extends far beyond the titles she won.
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"Legends of the Cue" is a pool history podcast featuring interviews with Pool Hall of Fame members, winners of major championships and other people of influence in and around pocket billiards. We also plan to highlight memorable pool brands, events and venues. Focusing on the positive aspects of the sport, we aim to create and provide an engaging and timeless repository of content that listeners can enjoy now and forever. Co-hosted by WPBA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher, Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, our podcast focuses on telling the life stories of pool's greatest, in their voices. Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”
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I got it all back except I have a tingling, you know, like when you're foot to sleep.
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I have a tingling in my right lower quadrant.
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So I have a limp.
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Try, I missed one tournament because I had my daughter.
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It was the Detroit tournament was in May.
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So I won it in 94.
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And then missed it in 95.
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I don't know what the reason was.
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So the next turn, oh that's what it was.
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I missed it in 93 because I had her.
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And then in 94 I came back and won it.
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And uh and uh and then in March of 95 I got sick, and I still played, and I managed to get my game back, and by this time, you know, I talked him into the house, so I have a table in the house, and so I'm walking past the table all the time, you know, because my room was on one side of the house, and I had my table in the formal living room combination that was in the middle of the house, and I had walked to walk past that to get to the other three bedrooms, the kitchen, the living room, you know, of uh one day after a month or so, you know, I'm still using the walker and my legs in a brace and everything.
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And I so I pulled the cue down off my off the rack.
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It was on the wall, and I couldn't do it, you know, it wasn't because I just couldn't swing my arm.
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And I thought, oh this is real nice.
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And I'm going to physical therapy three times a week.
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And uh so about a week later I tried it again.
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You know, she'd go to bed and I'd talk teach myself how to swing my arm again and to make a bridge, you know, and and to play.
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And and it's funny because I pro I ended up playing better than I did before I got sick.
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Probably because my fundamentals were better.
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I didn't re really I couldn't stand like I used to.
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So I looked in books and I saw how you're supposed to stand.
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So I I found a position where I could because my back foot is the one that's turned in.
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So I found a stance that I could do out of a book, and I taught myself to swing an arm my arm again.
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So I started to, you know, by 90, maybe by 97, I got my game back, and it was I was actually playing better than I was before I got sick.
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But I had no stamina.
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After a match, you know, hour, hour and a half match, I'd be exhausted.
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But it would I'd be okay because I could rest and then I'd play my next match, and you know, most of the time I'd win.
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By the time I got to Saturday night, now in those days we played, we had three-day events.
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So Saturday night there was only a few players left, and then on Sunday there were three.
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So on Saturday night you had to play back to back to back to back, as long as you kept winning, you know, or if you're on the loser side, back to back.
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So Steve would say, All right, Mayor, table three in five minutes, take five.
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Well, I never could get past fifth place, fifth, sixth place, because I was just I couldn't do it.
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So I just finally in mid-99, it was Detroit when I quit and I told everybody, I said, I'm I'm done.
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And they said, Oh, you'll be back.
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No, no.
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And uh so I I retired in mid-99.
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And even today, I I have better stamina than I did then, but I still wonder if I could do the back-to-back to back-to-back, like we used to have to do.
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In fact, the way they run tournaments today, where I don't think you guys play back to back to back, do you, Alison?
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You can't.
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If you go into the losers bracket, you can.
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You can play five matches on Saturday.
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Oh, really?
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So if you can, yeah.
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But so then I still not all tournaments, not all tournaments, but some.
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I played in one tournament after that.
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Charlie, Charlie Williams called me up.
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I'm living in Florida now.
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I had to move down there to take care of my Charlie lived in Orlando and he calls me up.
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He says, Mary, I'm doing having a tournament up in New York, women's tournament.
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He says, You got to come play.
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It's 2014.
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Charlie, I said, I haven't played in a tournament in 15 years.
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Well, he kept hounding me, he kept calling me.
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So I kept telling him, I says, You find me a stakehorse.
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I says, I'll go play.
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Finally he calls me up and he says, Okay, you're in.
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I had my plane ticket covered, everything.
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In fact, Earl let me stay in his house, in his apartment.
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He moved in with his girlfriend for the week, so I stayed in Earl's apartment while I was there.
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It was right around the corner from the pool room.
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It was this 10-ball tournament, and and you were in like, I think it was six-player brackets, six or eight player brackets.
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And it was round robin, you had to play everybody in your bracket.
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So Ava and I advanced to the final round of single elimination.
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And the night before, and I'm playing really good now.
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In fact, the last my mass match is on YouTube.
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I played this Russian champion, right?
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And I in my last game with her, I broke the balls and I had a 210 combination.
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What had gone in the pocket.
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I'd made the one in the side on the break.
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The two ten combinations set up, but it was tough.
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The 10 was like a foot, foot and a half from the pocket, corner pocket, and the two was a foot and a half from that, and my cue ball was three or four feet from there.
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But I went and looked at the shot, and all I had to do was just try to make the two.
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Because if I made the two, I'd make the ten.
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So I called the two ten the Russian girl snotty to rolls her eyes, right?
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And uh anyway, so I I made the ball, made the combination, and won the match, right?
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And uh, and the reason I I won the match, it was an absolute hanger.
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And the reason I won the match is because I had taught myself center-to-edge aiming, pivot aiming.
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And I wish I had known that.
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You know, when we started, you know, there was nothing on the internet like it is today.
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If I'd have known that, I would have won a lot more tournaments, won a lot more games, a lot more matches.
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So obviously, Mayor, after you wound down your career, you probably looked around and said, all right, what am I doing now?
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And I'm sure you kept quite active between 99 or so when you said you hung up your competitive career to uh 2020 when you were inducted to the WPBA Hall of Fame, which we're anxious to talk to you about, but sort of help us bridge that gap because I know you got involved in some commentary, a little bit of tournament write-up work and columnist work for various publications.
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Tell us about uh what happened in those first two decades of the uh century.
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Well, the first part, the first few years, I I went back to dealing poker.
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And I met my sweetie.
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He was in the 10th seat when I was dealing one day.
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That's right next to the dealer for those of you that don't know.
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He said, you know, and this is what I was first working at this place, and neither one of us can remember what he said, but it was, you know, I had just started working, so you know, I didn't want to rock the boat, you know.
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So I was just, you know, they call it dummy up and deal.
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So that's all I did.
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I didn't say a word.
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And there was this one guy in the game that was really giving me a hard time.
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And Al, the 10-seat, said, just cut him to his knees and said exactly what I was thinking.
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My head snapped around.
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I looked at him, I said, I love you, man.
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He laughed.
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And that's how we kind of we met.
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Anyway, Allison, he told me to tell you that we've been together 26 Christmases now.
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Oh.
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Do you remember you asking how long we've been together in Charlotte?
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And I told him we told you so many Christmases.
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It's lovely.
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I love that.
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That's wonderful.
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So that's part one.
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But I like I say, I met him in the tent seat and I was dealing poker, and I dealt poker for several years.
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I worked at the Palms, which, you know, had a great web.
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That was the best job I ever had.
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If I I only worked a few hours a day, like four or five hours a day, and I'd come home with two, three, four hundred dollars in tips.
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I mean, it was unbelievable.
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And then my but my mom she called and needed me to come down to Florida.
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So I quit dealing, hated it, but you know, did.
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And so we moved down to Florida.
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By this time, you know, I had my pool table, and I had set it up in different houses, so you know, we always had to find a house to put a pool table in.
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So we lived down there for 11 years.
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And other than Charlie's tournament, I never played in any tournaments, but I had a table in my house.
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And so, you know, people would come over at hit balls, and like I say, I turned taught myself how to aim, you know.
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Aiming for me was always the holy grail.
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It was always the weakest part of my game.
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And this is one of my regrets that I didn't uh well, I did.
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I asked a lot of players.
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You know, I knew all the guys back then, you know, and Jimmy Rempe was the only one that ever, you know, most of them told me they, you know, couldn't be bothered or girls won't be able to play or you know, all this stuff.
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And uh and Rempi told me, aim at like quarters of the ball.
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So I did that, you know, but like I I really didn't know how to aim, and I had all my little, you know, the different shots would come up, and in those days, you know, a lot of us used a lot of English.
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So I had my own little systems for making each shot.
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And then when Samoas came out, this the game really changed because you know, you went from having to have a very good stroke to play on those slow tables to now, you know, I was afraid to swing my arm, you know.
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Yeah, it falls.
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Oh, it took me several years between you know 89 and 93 to finally learn how to play on.
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And the thing was too is in Vegas we had Simonis on the tables, but it played different because it was dry.
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You know, you'd go you'd leave Vegas and the tables be boinging and they'd be triple fast.
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You know, at home I play, I was always in stroke at home, and I'd go to the tournament, I'd be dead stroke, and if I could survive till the last, you know, you know, I'd be fine, you know, because the tables would be kind of broken in by then, you know, but it was hard.
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But Amy, Amy was always the weak spot in my game.
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Even though I made, you know, you know, I did quite well.
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I always played better position than most of the girls.
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Oh, actually all of the girls at that time.
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And and I kicked, absolutely kicked better.
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You know, I had Ellie K Ed Kelly teach me how to kick.
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And uh so I kicked, you know, they used to tease me and say I kicked like Ephred, you know, but I did.
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Uh you know, I didn't mean it might not have kicked like Ephraim, but I kicked pretty good.
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I very rarely gave up ball in hand, let's put it that way.
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And and and I knew how to play safe.
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So that's why I did well in a lot of tournaments.
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And if the balls were laying out there, and you know, I can get out, you know.
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But aiming was always the weak spot in my game, and it was like the holy grail.
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And so I I started looking at AZ Billiards and I saw this 90-90 aiming.
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And so I and the guy offered to give lessons over the phone.
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And I'm thinking, well, how the hell can you do that?
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So anyway, but about six months later I kept seeing, you know, all these people that I respected, you know, use their own names, or I knew who they were behind their screen names, you know, were talking to so anyway.
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I finally called him up one day.
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He says, Oh, Mary's, I remember you from Boulevard in Philly.
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Well, I didn't remember him.
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He was probably just one of the guys that was, you know, there.
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He says, You got a pool table available?
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I says, Yeah.
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He says, Well, take your phone, just put me on speaker, he says, put it on the rail.
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He says, get the cue ball and set up a shot.
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I said, Okay.
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He walked me through pivot aiming.
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I fooled with that and I was just floored.
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Now, what what year are we in here?
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I'm thinking 2010-ish.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So you're still working on your, oh, I played every day.
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I just couldn't compete.
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You know, I'd play, I'd, and most of the time I played by myself, but I didn't mind because it was like therapy.
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And I would just play as long as my foot held up.
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Were you still thinking you were going to compete at some level, or was it just more for your own personal gratification?
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I'm going to learn to aim.
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Yeah, finally.
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I mean, so like I say, it was like the holy grail, you know.
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And no, I had no interest in competing because I knew I couldn't hold up, you know, you know, physically.
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Yeah.
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And now I'm playing better than I ever did.
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Nice to still have that draw.
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I actually I sold my table finally.
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Right before we moved to Tucson.
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In fact, I sold it to Bill McDaniel, the cue maker.
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And he made Karen Coescue, didn't he?
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Yeah.
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And uh so anyway, he and uh Chase came down and and took it.
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And anyway, so but I'd had it for a long time.
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What are your recollections of getting the call to the hall back in 2020?
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Belinda called me.
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And uh I had kind of gotten a heads up that the year before that it was between Gerda and I.
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And Goethe got it that year.
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And so Belinda says, you know, when she told me that Gerta got it, she says, you know, you'll probably get it next year.
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I said, okay.
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So I got the phone call in 2020, and so we made arrangements for me to go.
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I think you guys were gonna have a tournament in West Virginia and of 2020, and it was gonna be in the spring, and so that was where I was gonna be inducted, and then COVID hit.
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So everything, you know, just got shut down.
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So I didn't get actually, I keep telling my Al, I says, yeah, it's gonna be real nice.
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I'm gonna get COVID and die, and I'm never gonna get him all of fame, you know.
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Oh my god.
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Anyway, so uh Ray Hansen was running uh was running some tournaments in Vegas, and he asked me if I wanted to come do commentary.
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In those days, you used to have to show up to do commentary.
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And I said, sure.
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So I called up Belinda, and anyway, we made arrangements for me to get inducted.
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Because, you know, to be honest with you, I didn't want to wait till the end of the year or anything else, and I really didn't care about getting inducted.
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All I just want to do is get my name on the list, you know.
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And uh, you know, so uh we all got together before the streaming started, before the tournament started.
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In fact, I think they had a predator event going on.
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So after the predator stuff was over, that was when the U.S.
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Opens were gonna start.
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So I came in at the end of the Predator and I saw you, Allison, and a few people.
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So I had probably, I don't know, 15 or 20 people, mostly just my friends, you know.
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You know, I called up my friends from LA and Vegas, and you know, and so a bunch of them came up, and and I had a few players that came also.
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Lori John uh introduced me, and so I didn't get inducted until I guess it was I don't know, May of 22, something like that.
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22, yeah.
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And then I did commentary, you know, the rest of the time I was there.
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So that's how I ended up doing commentary, and then later the headphones that I'm using, when it it became possible to do commentary from home.
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So, you know, Ray bought had me, you know, he reimbursed me for the headphones.
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And so I did commentary for him for several years.
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You know, the the ten ball.
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He's mostly doing one pocket now.
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And I'm you know, I could you know, I know basic one pocket, but you know, he mostly has Larry Schwartz and Jeremy Jones and Billy and Cardona, and those guys do the commentary.
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So I don't commentate as much anymore because he's doing mostly one-pocket tournaments now.
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Yeah, and when I but you know, I started writing, doing write-ups for him.
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He asked me if I'd write a story on the tournament for him.
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And I said, Well, sure.
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Because, you know, what happened was they'd have a tournament and they'd do a short paragraph, and it would be filled with misspellings and grammatical errors.
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So I would just, you know, tell I just say, you know, I'd type up what I thought would be better.
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I got to the point where race is, why don't you just write up the story?
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So that's how I kind of got started writing stories.
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And then I started, AZ Billiards wanted them.
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So I started, you know, sending them write-ups, and then Mike Howarton and AZ Billiards asked me if I'd cover some other tournaments for him, because he didn't want to go or didn't have time, you know.
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So I did some other events.
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The most recent events are the Ultimate Pool USA events that they're just starting now.
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Got another one coming up pretty soon.
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And so, and then he asked me if I'd be interested in doing a column for him, a monthly column, and related to my photos.
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And so I'm doing a monthly column and it's called Chalking Up the Memories.
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And it started in May.
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And I I asked him, I says, if you don't mind, would you mind if I introduced myself to because most people don't know who the hell I am anymore, you know, because I'm not out there.
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Even people that that, you know, they might know me from the Wall of Fame photos, but you know, most people don't know who I am.
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That's why I stopped going to Derby Derby City.
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I didn't know anybody, you know, everybody died, or you know, all the people I knew had died, or they weren't coming anymore, or you know.
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So I asked Mike if he would mind if I introduced myself over several issues before I because it wasn't his idea for the column was just take like a person like Weenie Beanie, and I would just do a write-up on Weenie Beanie.
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